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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Nov 25, 2011 12:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Burnout

Three words:

Jerry Garcia Band


I listen more to JGB, LOM and Reconstruction far more than I do the Dead these days.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 25, 2011 12:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Burnout

I just realized that though I did this in the 70s a time or two (while more recently it was a CREAM diversion), what you describe is exactly what has played out for at least half a dozen posters here...I can distinctly recall various ones describing how they'd latched onto JGB in a big way post a major period of time on the DEAD. Too many to list, but, I am simply struck by how often it's been the route (duh, perhaps?) for many here.

There--I hope I successfully articulated a perspective on my part that in no way will influence you to stay, leave or remain in neutral here at the Forum.

;)

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Nov 25, 2011 1:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Burnout

I'm not sure what you mean by 'remain in neutral', WT ?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 25, 2011 1:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Burnout

Ha--good catch; it was a poor attempt at a joke, as in "literally 'in' neutral" [doing nothing...;) necessary these days?] or as in "remaining above the fray" (a compliment--clearly, I've gotten nothing but grief by taking the alternative path of late).

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 25, 2011 1:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Burnout

I think it's polite Tellspeak for not giving a fuck either way.

:-)

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Nov 25, 2011 1:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Burnout

OK, got it now.
Yes, I'm trying to stay in neutral. It's better that way, there has been far too much grief in this seedy dive (some of it my doing, I will confess).

It's better to be chilled about it all. It's only ones and zeros after all: what's the worst that could happen.

And if a certain poster turns out to be 'you know who' after all, who cares as long as they are behaving and being (reasonably) respectful.

However WT, I do think that you were right to call a certain poster out after certain comments, so you are good with me.

Any road up. it's all yesterdays news and today's digital fish and chip paper.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 25, 2011 4:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Burnout

Thx, JH; yes, I do have a bad habit of getting into "discussions" about what was meant, how something can be interpreted, blah, blah, blah, and tend to beat the post/poster into the ground as in the example you allude to...I do regret that some folks seem to attribute some "peace-keeping" (Forum Moderator?) role to me, due to the old "Prime Minister" biz I initially embraced, and that's why I made it clear some time back I was "retiring" (sorry if this was all before your time).

It's MY job to tell Rob what to say (who'd want THAT? he's the best writer around here!)? I'm the leader of some grand conspiracy against certain posters? I'm overly indulgent of gals or just the opposite? I can't keep track any more.

And why am I still taking this seriously enough to even blather on like this?

Back to the subject at hand: pardon my ignorance (age, etc), but did you have a chance to see any of the incarnations of "JGB" (I use the term very broadly) over the yrs? Personally, my fav times were the early 70s, from Wales/Saunders to NHopkins lineups, through the Keystone shows of the late 70s and early 80s, if I recall my dates correctly. Those were ones I was able to see live, and enjoyed immensely (even then, prior to my transformation to an early era fanatic for the DEAD, I thought he was enjoying himself much moreso when playing with folks outside the DEAD and the lg venues).

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Nov 26, 2011 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Burnout

Alas, I have neither seen any JGB incarnation or indeed the Dead live. I always seemed to miss the Dead when they played over here in the U.K. and as far as I know, JGB have not played over here either.

I like most of the JGB incarnations, I'm particularly fond of the '75 stuff with Nicky Hopkins and the '79 to '80 run with Ossie Ahlers. Most of the LOM output is pretty good too.

I suppose my least favourite is the '76 JGB, which is a little too laid back for my tastes. Having said that, I thought that Maria Muldaur added a lot vocally to that particular line up.

I agree with your observation that Jerry's playing seems a more liberated when with others.


BTW, in my opinion, you didn't beat anyone into the ground, you just said what you felt needed to be said. So don't beat yourself into the ground about it.

This post was modified by Jacky Hughes on 2011-11-26 15:31:21

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 26, 2011 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Burnout

Good advice; yes, agree entirely about Maria...loved hearing Jon Sebastian and David Grisman talking about her from the early days in New York at a concert a few yrs back when they toured...Midnight at the Oasis was a song that at the time, we could only admit to as a guilty pleasure (her one pop hit, I suppose?), but I look back on it with nostalgia now.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 25, 2011 1:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Burnout

You should be very afraid about now...pretty soon you'll be called upon after ever post with a "Tell-interpretation" or "Tell-translation" (hmmm, nice ring to those phrases, eh? But the pay's pathetic. I note with some sadness that my sons now do this somewhat regularly when my wife and I are having a "discussion": "he means THIS, blah, blah, blah..." so perhaps I do need serious help, ya know?).

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Nov 25, 2011 1:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Burnout

Should change his screen name to rob-the-babel-fish.